Irakli Kobakhidze - Rustavi 2, Imedi, First Channel  everything was seized from  from lawful owners by the National Movement, including in 2004 -2012.

Giorgi Gabunia- Kibar Khalvashi seized at that time, this government returned here  Kibar Khalvashi , if it were not for Strasbour,  Kibar Khalvashi would have been here.

Irakli Kobakhidze -The National Movement seized the  television from Kibar Khalvashi .

Giorgi Gabunia- – .. And no Okuashvili, none  of these footage the audience.would  have a chance to see

Irakli Kobakhidze --- (repeating)  The National Movement seized the  television from Kibar Khalvashi. This is the given circumstance for today. That"s what the court has established ,  nothing more. The society knows what  happened, how  Kibar Khalvashi"s other businesses were seized, besides other businesses,  for  what price he  sold and the society knows everything very well.

Giorgi Gabunia   --- How Kibar Khalvashi received and how he seized this company from the previous owner. Kibar Khalvashi was acting on Okruashvili"s behalf, and we saw  the same happen  in Iberia.

Irakli Kobakhidze –You know and the society knows that Kibar Khalvashi was the owner of the television and the National Movement seized   TV   from Kibar Khalvashi   You are trying to  move away from the topic.

Giorgi Gabunia  –We are trying to move to something  which you do not want to move to, but before that, before  Kibar Khalvashi why we do not speak about what happened then. Why are you starting from Kibar Khalvashi?

Irakli Kobakhidze – You tell me about  the court, and what has the court established- whether  Saakashvili  legally  appropriated the TV from Kibar Khalvashi or not. The court has ruled that Kibar Khalvashi was illegally deprived of TV by  Saakashvili. This is established and you are trying to avoid  this fact  but how  can you avoid it?

Giorgi Gabunia – Not me, Strasbourg has avoided it

Irakli Kobakhidze - No, Strasbourg has not established  anything in this regard.

Giorgi Gabunia  -- Has not established yet  but has avoided it

Irakli Kobakhidze –You said it yourself, has not established anything yet

Giorgi Gabunia --- Has not established anything yet . The process has not yet finished

Irakli Kobakhidze – But what the society knows is true, knows what was going on during the National Movement, how they seized  Rustavi 2 from the lawful owner and then Imedi ..